3d audio app jobs
I'm seeking a proficient video editor with a solid background in VFX and 3D editing. The primary objective of this project is to create educational content using Adobe After Effects. Key Responsibilities: - Implementing educational content: The editor should be skilled in creating engaging and informative videos for educational purposes. - VFX & 3D Expertise: Proficient in using Adobe After Effects for VFX and manipulation. - Timely Delivery: This project has a specific deadline to meet. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficient with Adobe After Effects: The editor should be well-versed in the tool, with a portfolio that showcases their VFX and 3D editing skills. - Strong Understanding of Educational Content: The ability to translate complex topics into easi...
3D models of tree canopies of varying complexities
I want to develop an AI-powered tool that can analyze tooth size and shape. The tool should be capable of processing photographs of dental casts with a high level of accuracy for clinical use. Ideal Skills: - Proficient in AI and machine learning techniques - Experience in developing medical or dental-related software - Familiarity with 3D modelling and image processing - Strong understanding of dental anatomy and terminology The tool should ultimately aim to provide detailed, precise measurements to assist in dental treatment planning and orthodontic diagnosis. The end goal is to create a reliable tool that can be used as part of the clinical workflow in dental practices. Please respond with your experience in creating similar projects and any relevant qualifications that set ...
I'm seeking a proficient video editor with a solid background in VFX and 3D editing. The primary objective of this project is to create educational content using Adobe After Effects. Key Responsibilities: - Implementing educational content: The editor should be skilled in creating engaging and informative videos for educational purposes. - VFX & 3D Expertise: Proficient in using Adobe After Effects for VFX and manipulation. - Timely Delivery: This project has a specific deadline to meet. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficient with Adobe After Effects: The editor should be well-versed in the tool, with a portfolio that showcases their VFX and 3D editing skills. - Strong Understanding of Educational Content: The ability to translate complex topics into easi...
We are a Decorative Mouldings company and the drawings would be of Crown Mouldings/Coving, 3D Wall Panels, Railings/Chair Rails and some Exterior mouldings. There is 21 different profiles in all. We need meticulous and skilled technical illustrators who can deliver technical drawings of our products in five different formats including PDF, DWG, DXF, OBJ, and MAX. Please see attached example of a technical drawing from one of our competitors in a PDF format, this is what we would be looking to replicate. Your responsibilities: - Create detailed and accurate technical drawings of the products - Deliver all drawings in the five mentioned formats Key skills: - Proficiency in delivering drawings in different formats - Proficient in CAD software - Attention to detail and ability to c...
3D model of tree root structures covering a range of morphological complexities (Autodesk 3ds Max)
I require a high-definition, detailed 3D model of a root structure for research purposes. The model should encompass both major and minor roots. Key Requirements: - The model should be suitable for 3D printing, hence should be delivered in STL format. - It needs to be intricately detailed, capturing both major and minor roots for a comprehensive representation. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in 3D modeling, particularly natural structures. - Experience in creating intricate designs for research purposes. - Knowledge of the requirements for 3D printing. - Strong attention to detail to capture the complexity of the root structure. - Previous experience with similar projects would be a significant advantage.
I am seeking photogrammetrists who can skillfully develop a highly detailed model of a historical monument for architectural visualization purposes. With a focus on precision and accuracy, you'll be expected to capture intricate aspects of the monument, showcasing every notable feature. Specifications include: - Creating a high-detail 3D model of a historical monument - Ensuring the model is immediately suitable for architectural visualization - Maintaining high accuracy and attention to detail in all captured aspects Ideal skills and experiences include: - Proven experience in creating architectural visualizations - Extensive knowledge and experience with photogrammetry - History of working on detailed architectural structures - A keen eye for detail and accuracy Yo...
...expert in 3D printing to help me create STL files for printing high-precision and detailed functional parts. You will be paid $15.00NZD per file you can provide that are unique and have not been done again. We sell commercially so please only the top quality - We use Bambu and Creality for advertising our products. If you do well there will be plenty of money to earn. Once you have a product available we need to test print it first and a photo will be sent to you of the print. If the print works well you will be paid before we advertise anything on our platforms. Key Requirements: - Creating STL files: STL files are the standard format for 3D printing and must be correctly formatted for the printing process. - Understanding of 3D Printing Concepts: An understandi...
I have recently had bad experience with a contractor so before you bid read these comments. 1 - Post "I am not a BOT" as the first words in your bid 2 - As per the freelancer rules I will not release the money until I have the final work and review it 3 - Do not ask what my budget is, if you bid your bid is what you are getting. I am looking for someone who specializes in 3d design to modify this project and create a second file. - First the jar holder does not change size because its for a specific jar size - Second expand the base to 20CM in size - Third add more of the little islands the bees can stand on Second create a second file. A flat curricle that fits over the entire feeder with hole in the center to go over the jar holder. It needs to cover the entire ar...
I'm in search of a talented video editor who excels in advanced editing techniques, namely color correction and audio mixing. The content's ultimate goal is to advertise a product or service. The video should communicate the message in an informal and humorous tone. Ideal Skills/Experience: - Advanced video editing capabilities - Experience in creating engaging advertisement videos - Proven ability in color correction and audio mixing - A sense of humor and ability to translate that into visual content Need someone who can create engaging yet simple form content for Instagram reels
I'm seeking a male Telugu voice-over artist. Strong voice modulation skills and experience in audio recording are preferred. - Ideal Skills: • Telugu Proficiency • Voice Modulation • Audio Recording - Experience: • Prior voice-over experience is advantageous. - Time Commitment: • Consistent progress, no fixed deadline Candidate should have home setup, its full and full remote work. its long term project. Please apply interested people only. Please be prepared to provide a brief sample of your work in your bid.
A 3D modeller to enhance an existing 3D character, fix the body rig, and add facial blendshapes and visemes for lip-syncing. Additionally, the task involves rigging a piece of clothing (Baju Kebaya) to the body. The model needs to be cleaned up or redone to be suitable for a game by reducing the poly count and simplifying the rigging. The files provided include documentation for visemes, the blend file of the model, clothing files, and textures. Key requirements include: - Ensuring the character's poly count is appropriate for a game environment. - Tweaking the model's textures, if necessary, to balance quality and performance. - Making any adjustments to the rig and animations for optimal in-game performance. - Delivering the final optimized character in a format c...
I'm seeking a proficient video editor with a solid background in VFX and 3D editing. The primary objective of this project is to create educational content using Adobe After Effects. Key Responsibilities: - Implementing educational content: The editor should be skilled in creating engaging and informative videos for educational purposes. - VFX & 3D Expertise: Proficient in using Adobe After Effects for VFX and manipulation. - Timely Delivery: This project has a specific deadline to meet. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficient with Adobe After Effects: The editor should be well-versed in the tool, with a portfolio that showcases their VFX and 3D editing skills. - Strong Understanding of Educational Content: The ability to translate complex topics into easi...
I'm in need of a 3D graphic designer who specializes in photorealistic product rendering. The primary use of these renderings will be in producing marketing materials for my company. Key Skills and Experience: - Extensive experience in photorealistic product rendering, with a strong portfolio showcasing past work in this area - Proficiency in 3D modeling software such as Blender, Maya, or 3ds Max - Adept at understanding and translating branding guidelines into 3D visual assets - Excellent attention to detail and ability to ensure consistency with established color schemes and fonts The ideal candidate should be able to take our existing branding guidelines, which include specific color schemes and fonts, and apply them to the 3D renderings of our produc...
I'm seeking a skilled designer to create a 3D model of an existing CPAP mask but with a modification to accomodate a cable passing through and an airtight seal for a microphone on the other side of that cable. The seal needs to be removable so the microphone can be pulled out and put on a new replacement mask as the mask has a shelf life. There needs to be a clip on the outer surface of the mask so the cable stays in place and the microphone does not move around. Can provide a 3D splat scan of the mask (not very good but you can get the overall design from it) as well as pictures of the mask which is a current standard model. Will then need you to create the 3D file of the mask along with the modifications being the hole, the mount to sit on the hole and hold ...
I'm looking for a skilled 3D animator or studio to help create an engaging, clear, and informative video aimed at mechanics. The video will focus on the crucial aspects of fire safety in their workplace, covering: - The importance and correct usage proprietary (specific) fire safety equipment - Critical steps to prevent fires on-site. It's essential that the freelancer has experience dealing with technical content, and can communicate these serious, potentially life-saving instructions in an engaging, clear, and understandable way. Knowledge about the mechanics industry and the unique fire safety challenges they face would be beneficial. Please include examples of your previous work on similar safety or educational animations when you bid. MUST be able to digitise produ...
I am looking for a female voice artist who can create audio stories & JOI based on very erotic role-plays and fantasies. The voice should be original & seductive, and native to Hindi or Bengali language. The ideal candidate should have experience in voice acting and storytelling. Requirements: - Proficient in Hindi or Bengali language with playful & teasing tone - Able to create audio erotic stories that are 20-30 minutes in length - Must have a seductive and captivating voice that attracts men - Must be comfortable with adult erotic narrations without any limit - Should be able to bring the stories to life through erotic expressions - Fantasies may contain teacher-student, director-heroine, secretary etc. If you are a talented voice-over artist with a se...
As the project owner, I'm looking for an experienced freelancer with proficient skills in Blender who can animate a range of mechanical objects. The project details include: * Crafting high animations for general use and presentations. * Texturing intricate mechanical objects like showroom and cars in a realistic manner. * Implementing seamless and smooth animation techn...texturing. * Prior projects involving mechanical objects. * Skills in creating realistic and medium-detailed animations. * Keen eye for details and aesthetics. I'm excited to view your portfolio of previous work in Blender, particularly those involving mechanical objects and animations. Your ability to create medium-detailed animations will be critical for this project. Let's create exceptional 3D...
I am searching for a skilled 3D animator to create a captivating and realistic animated video for a nursery rhyme. The video will be over 2 minutes in length and will feature a mix of different characters and themes. Key requirements: - 3D Animation: You must be proficient in creating 3D animation - Realistic Style: The video should have a realistic style, rather than a cartoonish one - Varied Characters: The video will feature a mix of animals, fantasy characters, and everyday people, so versatility in character design is important - Engaging Storytelling: The ability to tell a story through animation is essential It's important that you have relevant experience in creating similar content, and can provide a portfolio of your previous work.
...retention - Storyboard scripts and use creative Motion Graphics expertise to visualise instructional graphics - Understand instructional end goals and create content that matches them - Apply tested instructional design theories, practices and methods - Apply feedback from QA process to ensure final product is effective in delivering educational material - Create supporting material/media (audio, video, simulations, etc) - Maintain project documentation and course folders - Translate content using an AI tool provided by the business Key Requirements: - Skilled at 2D animation - Ability to translate complex concepts into easy-to-understand visuals - Have worked on similar projects for the professional development sector - Ability to create engaging, effective and inte...
I'm in need of a talented 3D designer to create a carton design for our product bottles. The printed cartons are used to pack our product bottles in dozens. The printing company has an urgent need for this design, hence the need for someone who can work on this quickly. Here's a brief on what we're looking for: - Carton Size: Two sizes, one for packing one dozen, another for two dozens. - Design Style: Illustrative - Specific Color Scheme: I have specific colors in mind. The budget for this project is strict, limited to $50, so we're looking for someone who can work efficiently within this budget. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficient in 3D Design, with a strong portfolio in carton design (preferably large cartons) - Ability to work quickly and ...
I'm looking for a skilled 3D animator to create a realistic, fabric-textured, animated background for my website in glb format. Key requirements: - The background must be in a realistic style, avoiding cartoonish or abstract elements. - The setting for the animation should be based on a fabric texture, giving a unique and interesting visual appeal to the website. Ideal skills and experiences include: - Proficiency in 3D modeling and animation, particularly for web-based projects. - Experience in creating realistic, detailed textures. - Prior work on creating fabric-textured environments would be a huge plus, but not mandatory. I'm open to your creative suggestions and would love to discuss the project in more detail to ensure the end result aligns with my visi...
I am looking for an experienced web developer to create a multi-format media player for my THC-based website: Here are some key details about the project: - Media Types: The player should support both mp3 and mp4 files. A seamless experience for both audio and video is crucial for my website visitors. - Required Functions: The primary functions I need are Play/Pause, Volume Control, and Playlist Management. The player should be user-friendly and intuitive to operate. - Integration: The player will be embedded on multiple pages of my website. It is important that it functions consistently across all pages and devices. The ideal candidate for this project will have: - Proficiency in web development - Experience in creating media players - Strong understanding of user experienc...
...system you will design. An internal (to the reader enclosure) PCB antenna, separate from this reader is needed. This PCB will be mountable in front of reader. Specify the specs for it. Its use will be selectable for the external antenna, Mux & advanced digital antenna. Provide 2 POC units for testing. 1 will be shipped to us for testing. Optional we also need you to design a non-abrasive, aesthetic 3D printable RF friendly enclosure with mounts for Vesa or pole, connecting to external systems. Enclosed sketch provides a more detailed HW sketch & peripheral supports needed. The green dotted line is out of scope. External Power supply range 1.5VDC-24VDC, connect via wiring terminals or a female plugin jack. Submit the following with your response in order.. 1. Please spec...
I need a CAD file for a small object that will be used for both 3D printing and SLA visual prototype. Key Requirements: - The CAD file needs to be designed for both 3D printing and SLA visual prototype. - The object is small in size. - The 3D printing material required is plastic. Ideal Skills & Experience: - Proficient in CAD software and 3D modeling. - Prior experience in designing for 3D printing and SLA. - Understands the constraints and possibilities of 3D printing with plastic. - Can deliver high-quality, detailed work suitable for a visual prototype. If you're confident in your CAD and 3D printing skills, please feel free to bid.
I'm looking for a skilled animator to help me create a 30-second 3D animated video. The video is aimed at healthcare professionals, and I want it to be both energetic and engaging. Key Aspects: - I want the animation to be in 3D, as it typically makes content more visually interesting and engaging. - The tone should be energetic, and the video should be persuasive and captivating. - The video should be suitable for healthcare professionals, so an understanding of the medical field could be beneficial. Ideal Skills: - Proficiency in 3D animation software - Experience in creating engaging, high-quality animated videos - Ability to understand and work with a specific target audience - Strong communication skills to ensure the animation meets the tone and requireme...
I'm in need of an expert 3D developer to create highly detailed product models, specifically for designing dentures from STL files. Key Project Details: - **Model Complexity**: The models should be intricate and highly detailed - **Texture and Lighting**: The models must be textured and well-lit to provide a realistic representation - **End Use**: The primary use of these models will be for designing dentures. Skills and Expertise Required: - Previous Experience: I'm looking for someone with a demonstrable portfolio of highly detailed product modeling work. - Proficiency in 3D Modeling Software: Expertise in software suitable for handling intricate, detailed models. - Understanding of Dental Industry: While not mandatory, prior experience or understanding of de...
...enhance the vocal quality of my WAV audio files. The current issues I'm experiencing with the audio include: - Background noise - I need this minimized and maintain the clarity of the vocals. - Quiet voices - I'm hoping you can help by increasing the loudness of the voices without causing distortion or other unfavorable additions to the sound. Key Skills preferred: - Proven experience in sound editing, especially in enhancing vocals - Expertise in working with WAV audio files - A keen understanding of how to minimize background noise - Strong attention to detail and commitment to quality output Your task will be to clear the background noise and enhance the vocals, making them clearer and balanced in terms of volume. The end product should be crisp, c...
...fall from the to and land on the letter C Here’s what I have in mind: - Duration: I'd prefer a quick and punchy animation, no more than 5 seconds long. - Emotion: The animation should evoke a playful and happy mood. - Creativity: I'm open to suggestions on how to make this logo animation unique and attractive. This project needs a professional with a strong grasp on creating and implementing 2D/3D animations. Experience with logo animation and an ability to capture essence of a brand will be a plus. Good communication is key as I value active update on the project's progress. It's crucial to get the rabbit's details and movements right, which could require a higher level of skill in fine detailing and motion capture. If your portfolio showcas...
I'm looking for a talented 3D modeler who's experienced in Maya to create a detailed 3D model with moderate level texturing and rigging. The primary purpose of the model is for product visualization. Requirements: - Proficiency in Maya for 3D modeling. - Ability to create detailed textures, aiming for a moderate level of detail, not hyper-realistic. - Experience in rigging for animation purposes. - Previous work in product visualization is a plus. Please provide samples of your previous work in Maya, and particularly any projects related to product visualization.
I'm in need of a skilled 3D modeler to create a replacement part for me. The part should be designed to be printed with PETG filament, making it durable and strong. Key Requirements: - The part needs to be modelled in medium level detail, suitable for general use. This means it shouldn't be overly complex, but should still be accurate and functional. - The main feature to focus on is durability. The part will have to withstand regular use and some minor stress. Ideal Skills: - Proficiency in 3D modelling software like SolidWorks, Fusion 360, or similar. - Experience with designing parts for 3D printing, especially with PETG filament. - An understanding of mechanical principles and durability in design. If you have experience in replacement part design an...
### Mobile Application Requirements for Audio Description **1. Introduction** This document outlines the requirements for a mobile application designed to provide audio descriptions for visual media, similar to the functionality provided by the Earcatch app. The goal is to make visual content accessible to users with visual impairments. **2. Objectives** - Provide synchronized audio descriptions for movies, TV shows, and other visual media. - Offer a user-friendly and accessible interface. - Ensure high-quality audio and precise synchronization. **3. Features** **3.1 User Registration and Authentication:** - User can create an account using email, social media, or Google/Apple ID. - Secure login/logout functionality. - Password recovery via email. ...
I'm looking for a highly skilled 3D artist to create a detailed and realistic animal character for animation purposes. Key Requirements: - Expertise in 3D character modeling, particularly animal characters - Ability to add realistic textures and features to the model - Proficiency in animation-friendly modeling Additional Skills (Preferred but not Mandatory): - Experience in animating 3D models - Knowledge of animation principles - Portfolio showcasing previous similar works The completed model should be suitable for animation, thus ensuring that it is appropriately rigged for movement. Experience in creating models suitable for animation in other studios or projects is a big plus.
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I am in search of a talented 3D artist to create a custom bobblehead design. This project is intended for personal use and the design must be highly detailed, replicating a specific individual's facial features, clothing, and accessories to bring out the real likeness to the individual. Ideal Skills: - Experience in custom 3D design, preferably having worked on bobblehead or human model designs - Eye for detail and ability to replicate features accurately Project Specifications: - Purpose: Personal use - Resemblance: Specific individual (very detailed) - Design: Must include detailed facial features, clothing, garments, etc. Your portfolio or examples of previous work similar to this project will be highly considered.
...unique and eye-catching label that appeals to the target market - Incorporate a sophisticated, yet engaging and refreshing look - Ensure the label effectively communicates the nature of the beverage - The label should be aligned to the other product lines in the range, however this label needs to look PREMIUM to suit the target market - Present the label as a flat PDF with all content and also a 3D render of the can Ideal skills and experience include: - Proven experience in label design, especially for beverages - A strong understanding of branding and target audience - Creativity and a keen eye for aesthetics - Excellent communication skills to understand and incorporate any specific preferences or requirements I have attached a brief, as well as the Nocktail Logo and the o...
...zombie pets. - Introduce periodic challenges and special events within the endless mode to shake up the gameplay and provide additional objectives or rewards for players who excel in their survival efforts. 5. Art and Sound Design: - Create visual cues and feedback that convey the increasing intensity and complexity of each successive wave of zombie enemies as players persevere. - Develop audio cues and immersive sound effects that enhance the tension and excitement of facing relentless zombie onslaughts in the endless mode. - Design striking visual effects and animations for ultimate abilities, boss encounters, or milestone achievements to celebrate player progress and accomplishments in this never-ending challenge. 6. Technical Implementation: - Optimize game p...
I'm in need of a talented animator who can take 120 music dance videos averaging 20-30 seconds each and transform them into 3D realistic quality animations. Key Points: - The style of animation I'm looking for is realistic. - The animations should be similar to the original videos but can be stylized. It doesn't have to be an exact replication of the movements. - The focus should be primarily on the characters with simple stylized backgrounds to enhance the visual appeal. Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in 3D animation and realistic rendering. - Ability to translate live-action dance sequences into animated sequences. - Experience in stylizing animations to enhance appeal while maintaining the essence of the original movements. - Capable of creating s...
I'm in need of a 3D animator who can bring to life characters for a virtual world series aimed at a teen audience. - Animation Style: The project will be exclusively 3D, requiring a high level of realism. - Setting: The series is set in a fantasy world, so the ability to create immersive and captivating environments is key. - Character Design: You'll be working on highly detailed character designs that need to look realistic. To achieve this, you'll need to be adept at creating textures that bring these characters to life. The ideal candidate will have prior experience in creating continuous motion characters, and a strong portfolio showcasing their expertise in 3D animation. The ability to work efficiently and communicate effectively is also essenti...
I'm in need of an experienced mechanical engineer with expertise in Finite Element Analysis (FEA) to perform structural analysis on frames and plates made of metals. This is specifically on 3D Models of Material Handling Attachments such as pallet forks and lifting jibs etc. Lifting Attachments must be engineered and approved before proceeding into manufacturing. Key requirements and tasks: - Conducting in-depth structural analysis on metal frames and plates to ensure durability and safety in my design. - Using FEA software to simulate stress distribution, deformation, and other relevant factors. - Providing detailed reports on the analysis results, including insights and recommendations for potential design improvements. Ideal skills and experience for this project include:...
I need an OpenScad expert to create a 3D model for me. It's intended for 3D printing, so the final output should be ready for this purpose. NEED IT DONE IN AROUND 12 HOURS
I need a seasoned designer who can envision a modern, bright, and motivating design for my large office space of over 1000 sq ft. This person should have: - Experience with modern aesthetics in space planning and design. - Proven track record in designing large office s...person should have: - Experience with modern aesthetics in space planning and design. - Proven track record in designing large office spaces. Key Requirements: 1. Must-have Features: The design should incorporate both collaborative workspaces and private offices, with an emphasis on functionality and comfort. By taking this project, you should produce a mood board, concept sketches, and detailed 3D renderings. Please include links to your portfolio in your bidding proposals - especially those with large, moder...
...creating unique tungsten ring designs for our business. The ideal candidate will have expertise in CAD software, a strong understanding of materials and manufacturing processes, and a passion for creating innovative and visually appealing jewelry designs. Responsibilities: * Develop an original design for tungsten rings that align with our brand aesthetic and target market preferences. *Create detailed 3D models and technical drawings using CAD software. *Provide regular updates on the design progress and incorporate feedback to refine and finalize designs. Requirements: *Proven experience as a jewelry designer, with a portfolio showcasing previous work in ring design. * Experience working with CAD software (e.g., Rhino, Matrix, SolidWorks) and other design tools. *Strong knowl...
...stated frequency range and the protocol. We have identified some possible technologies below but will rely on your expertise to pick one or combination of these or another suitable one from your experience. If you know of a pre-built solution that will be ideal. This antenna will be connected to our MCU via a comm port and be fully software defined. Our objective is to accomplish a 0.3 meters x,y,z 3D planer precision location of RFID UHF passive tags at about 25 meter cone at about 8 meters height from floor. Must be RFID UHF Frequency range (roughly 860-960 MHz, supporting US, Europe, Asia spectrums) Applicable ISO standards like EPCglobal UHF RFID Class 1 Gen2/ISO 18000-63/6C. This may be always-on at times for wide area monitoring of RFID tags' precise locations, per ...
...need of a skilled video editor who can help me with my social media accounts. The videos I create for my two brands usually last between 1 and 10 minutes, and they are posted on a weekly basis. Occasionally I will need a longer video to be cut down into several shorter videos. Key Responsibilities: - Editing of social media videos: The editor will be responsible for cutting, adding transitions, audio, and other necessary elements to produce engaging and high-quality content. - Understanding the brand: As I make videos for two different brands, it is crucial that the editor is able to grasp the unique style and tone of each brand, and tailor the videos accordingly. Ideal candidates will have: - Proficiency with Capcut and Experience with Social Media. These are real videos that...
I'm in need of an OpenSCAD expert who can assist me in making basic/medium-complexity 3D models of real-world objects for functional use. More info in chat
I need an experienced Solidworks professional to help me design a complex mechanical product. Key Requirements: - The primary task is to model a product with detailed mechanisms and moving parts, so I need someone who is proficient in 3D modeling and assembly design. - The product is at a prototype stage, so you need to have a good understanding of product design and the ability to bring innovative ideas to the table. Please provide examples of similar work you have done in the past. This project is time-sensitive, so please only apply if you can commit to meeting the deadlines. the pictures are for reference only I want to design a machine that works similarly the the one at but it must not be the same machine, it needs to be of similar size, look somewhat different
